December 6, 2012

Two-sides of the Same Coin

A long time ago, on a fan-site I went to very often, currently on a slow renovating phase, there was a member that got banned, who was very arrogant and up-tight, and would suck up to mods and admins on the site, while at the same time give others a hard time. The member in this post shall be called Alba, in reference to the character from Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth Quercus Alba (Theme: The Enemy Who Surpasses the Law).

Few years ago, Alba was a kind person, very greeting and welcoming to others. At that time, the fan-site was trying to keep fans of an online game together, during and after the game was still around. He, me, and a few others took part in a little pod casting group, which only lasted under a year.

When the game resurfaced a second time under a new company, there was disappointment in the air on all the fans. It eventually closed down again, because it was a failure. The rebirth of the game was the same as before, however worse than the original. It died in months.

After that, the pod casting died out. This is when things gone sour for everyone.

Eventually, Alba started to wreck chaos upon everyone. He was wrongfully, despite my worries and concerns, given mod powers on the TS3 server that was used for the pod casting. I knew nothing good would come out of it.

He would in the past get drunk while on the TS3 server, talking while drunk, get belligerent to others verbally, talking nonsense and, then pass-out unknowingly. He would wake up a few hours later, with a hangover, while still on the server. This would happen frequently and was very annoying and upsetting to me and others on that channel, and to others on the fan-site as well. Eventually, he stopped drinking.

Later, the TS3 server got closed down by the host, it wasn't being used much anyway, just drama going on. Alba ended up banning a few people, including me, calling me cancer, and a friend of mine on things we said outside of the TS3 server. He was pretty much acting like a ruler.

His actions were then transferred to the fan site. He started to post links that were highly inappropriate, pretty much 4chan standards, and very vulgar. Wouldn't be able to send him a private message (PM) without him showing fragments of it in public for all to see, claiming he's being targeted for wrong doing. Multiple times, he would attempt to apologize, then things would start to heat up again later.

I will admit, majority of the drama going on in the site was between me and him. Eventually, the admin was really getting fed up between us, indirectly saying but was still know whom he meant. Me and Alba. About a day after his statement, I left the fan-site, planning for a month to get my thoughts together and to let things cool down first.

Here's what I left on my leave:
…I’m done… I’m out. Yup, I’m calling it quits and leaving. Jack has been giving a lot of warnings to me and another member… numerous times, yet we just keep going at each other’s throats. Even a slightest comment of innocent curiosity leads to insulting one another. It’s really sickening.

I will admit HE is making good attempts to get this site going on a direction, while me on the other hand… doing what exactly for the forum that is good? Nothing, nada, none what so ever.

So just to end this… childless, arrogant, annoying, non-stop, belligerent, thick headed, ego/pride growing hatred between us, I might as well just leave. I’m not doing anything beneficial for the site… nothing but a pain to Jackuul’s mind. Almost like a tumor in comparison, or as one called me, “Cancer”. I’m just weighting the site down, period.

…Will admit… was jealous… green with envy as some would say… green eyed monster from Bernstein Bear’s would be good metaphor I believe for this.

Eventually I’ll find something that would be beneficial for something or someone without my jealousy getting the best of me… but it wouldn’t be for this forum.

I’m done… I’m out… tired of causing pain to the forum, to Jackuul, to the mods, and to frequent members on this site.

This blue cat will meow no more in this site.

Bye.
I left because something was nagging at me, Kite's bracelet and Cubia. In the .hack games, Kite's bracelet was connected to a monster named Cubia, like a two-sided coin. (More info here: Twilight Bracelet, read "The Twilight Bracelet" section, and here: Cubia, read the ".hack//games" section). Here's what I thought. Me and Alba are two sides of the same coin. Since we're two sides of the same coin, just like Kite's bracelet and Cubia, what can I do for all of this to end on a good note similar to what happened in the game? In the game, Kite's bracelet was destroyed by his partner Blackrose. When the bracelet was destroyed, Cubia vanished. The answer I could only think of at that time before leaving was to detach myself from the site. I soon gave myself deep thoughts on what to do. What could I sacrifice on my end that would cause the down fall of Alba?

During my month planned leave, I would go onto the site, as a guest, to see how things were. To my surprise, I was missed, saying it wasn't needed for me to leave. Alba continued to be a nuisance on the site however. I then figured out what to do. A week after my leave, I returned, sooner than I thought apparently.

After my returned, I did one thing that finally turn things around. Whenever he would get hostile to me, I would usually making a response back to him in a passive aggressive way, so would he, that's why the admin was getting tired of us and bans were being threaten upon us, along with shutting the site down because of us. That was before my leave... but after, I didn't respond at all in a passive aggressive way. I would still respond if I could in a polite way without being hostile to him.

A day after I came back, he also said he was leaving the site, however his thread was a mockery. My thread was called "No more meows" while his was called "No more AWESOME". I did make one response though on his: "Well I know one thing... You'll be missed more than me. Just a shame we couldn't put our differences aside and be friends. Take care." After my post, in no surprise, no one took him seriously.

He eventually got banned December 21st, 2012, that was about 6 months ago. He may return. Hopefully not as Cubia or Alba.

10 comments:

  1. Not what he tells people in Planet Forever. As you said he hasn't even been on the forum in months yet you just can't let go but need a scapegoat to blame your continued life problems on. Grow up bro! We all know you to be a proud and open homophobe that only bullied him for being gay the moment you joined the site anyway. You didn't have to follow him to TS3 but you did only to hurl insults about him to any new person logging on, even his friends. He was a founding creator of the podcast so of course he would be a moderator. He even reached out in peace to you in doing a show together. What you call being an obnoxious drunk was him just being a 'furry' and being silly while putting on a show. Regardless, from what I'm told he was the first person to know about the Planet Forever project and the first to be in this server as of Nov. 2010, helping to test and even do some basic coding and cataloging. Really sad and desperate of you to continue to blame others from long ago for your poor life choices. Good luck with that troll!

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    1. I have no interest in Planet Forever, nor his view either. Planet Forever has nothing to do in regards of this post, fail to see the reason why you brought that up. I never mentioned anything good or bad about his sexual views anyway, why do you bring this up?

      Besides, this was a long time ago, more than 6 months ago to be precise. Why do you care about what happened that long ago that much anyway with Alba? He was banned from the site till that date I mentioned. Also note I also blamed myself for some of the drama that happened between us. Saw no reason to deny it or pretend I didn't do any of it since it was clear in black and white far as the community back then was concern and experiencing from us.

      Just because he was one of the few first people to be on the server, doesn't make him a god. People change over time, and sadly he changed for the worse.

      Lastly, note my last sentence, "Hopefully not as Cubia or Alba," what I'm saying is I hope he comes back changed for the best, if he wishes to come back anyway. Other wise, the admin will permanently ban him. He said this himself. He is welcomed back to the site if he chooses on that date. Some have missed him though, but don't know if they still go to the site. I'm rarely active on that site myself.

      If he does come back, I will avoid him when needed. Rather not repeat history.

      Also, be thankful I didn't use his real alias name.

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  2. You did the right thing Sly. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


    --From a guest who has being following the mentioned forum since the beginning.

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  3. This again? Sly, I thought you had moved on by now, as you're stating Alba left 6 months ago. This text is proving that you have not.
    Hear me out, it does not matter what Alba said to you in the past. Drop it, all you're gonna accomplish is a bad reputation and finaly a ban.
    Everyone on the site is tired of hearing the constant whine.
    You are making yourself look bad by keeping the drama up, just leave it and move on.
    I do respect that you may have irl related problems, a hard time and whatever but do not keep this drama up. When you continuing the arguing you are fuling the fire that has left the fansite with a burn already. That is an act of trolling.

    Consider the following.
    If two drunken men where fighting in the street, it's a given that many people will back away instead of joining the fight. Forum flaming/trolling works the same.
    There are a small minority of people who may join the fight. They represent the trolls.

    I am not blackening you, I am giving you some good advices.
    The same works for Alba. He should not call you out either but go to the mods.
    And here comes the reality bomb. If the mods don't want/can't/will to help, you can't do more.
    What someone should not do is to go out on an widescale rant crusade on the forum in search for understandment and redemtion, ultimately attacking the mods and the site owner.

    I know it is against net ethics but Sly, you do yourself a favor if you remove this before others find out you have not moved on. It's making yourself look bad, immature and I know you can act more grown up than this, so please do. This argument has grown completely out of proportions by now and should be droped. Everyone has already heard everything they want to hear. So no need to fuel the fire.

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    1. I have no intentions to bring this up any further, but with the date of Alba possibly arriving back this felt the right time to bring it up as a consideration. I also haven't brought this up since Alba was banned from the site, so I am over it. If they choose to read it, that's on them. I'm not forcing them either way to read or not read. Be thankful I didn't use his real alias name on the site he went to before being banned and I'm writing this outside of the site, on my own blog. I put a page break after the 4th paragraph on the index page if they choose to read more.

      This isn't really something up to be argued nor discussed anyway. I will not remove this post, however, as I have not said his real alias name nor the name of the site this happened on. If I did, you point of "immature" and "fuel the fire" would carry. People who read this may not even know who or where exactly I'm talking about.

      Glad your comment was easy to read than that last worded comment, though. Grateful for that.

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    2. "the date of Alba possibly arriving back"... who said he ever left?
      And, yes, you did not mention any names or the site this situation is from, but that means the only people who would understand this rant are those from THE GAME and THIS SITE. In other words, this is DIRECTED AT THEM.

      Also pertaining to whom this rant is directed, you posted the link to this blog post to the site itself. Therefore, you were asking for them all to read it.

      Yes, I am criticizing your claims and your actions, but if you want to turn all this criticism into something constructive then you gotta have a trump card attitude to back this reminiscing(or fuel to the fire as some might say).

      -Someone who cares but cannot bear to put up with fluff

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    3. Are you implying he avoided his ban though an alt account by any chance? If he's been looking at the site as a guest all this time, that's fine then. The fact he got banned from the site doesn't mean he left exactly, it just means he won't be able to come back till the date of the ban is lifted, then he can come back if he so wishes and desires. I don't know how many times I need to explain this, or how simple I need to explain this either.

      Please note, I have not linked the site or the real alias profile on this entry. Yes I did post this new entry on the site in the chat, but I have done so in the past on other entries that weren't relevant to this topic, so why do you single this one out?

      They may wish to click on the link. Some may only read a bit and stop reading it or read all the way and may not say anything on the entry or on the site chat. I am not forcing them to read it or asking for any comments whether here or there, as this is a sensitive topic as far as the site and the community is concern. (I don't expect any comments anyway.)

      You can question my "claims" and "actions" all you want, but there are others on the site who can verify these "fuel to the fire", as you claim them to be.

      I see no reason to prove anything anyway, even if I wanted to, no point in it as this is ancient history. These events were witnessed by many back then, few of them are still around to this day.

      Please note, these are events that has happened months ago. I have no knowledge of how Alba has been doing since then, nor am I hoping he is the same as he was before what caused him to get banned. I am not asking any members on the site to shun or reject him upon arriving. I am willing to give Alba another chance when, and if chooses, to come back. I don't expect to be friends with Alba, however, but time will tell on that. Our views may still be different, but hopefully in the future we can avoid any unnecessary drama.

      Hoping this will turn out to be The Legend of Razgriz. "When history witnesses a great change, Razgriz reveals itself, first as a dark demon. As a demon, it uses its power to rain death upon the land, and then it dies. However, after a period of slumber, Razgriz returns, this time as a great hero." (Ace Combat 5) What I am implying is, Alba could possibly bring the site back to life. Right now, it's in a hibernating state, with one member making a great effort to keep the site going and the game that had died, twice, alive as well in his version.

      I no longer have any interest in the game since the rebirth, unfortunately. I couldn't get back to it anymore.

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  4. I think the healthy and constructive thing for you to do is move on after more than HALF A YEAR since this incident. Have you really not moved on?

    By continuing to reference and link this blog post on that forum, by advertising and promoting it so aggressively, your intent is clearly only to slander, flame and bait. You're simply milking this for every last once of attention and pity.

    I also want to say there are SEVERAL voice recordings of you from the TS3 channel you admitted to going on that prove your homophobic, toxic hatred towards gays. I hope you learn to be more accepting and tolerant of diversity instead of being so close-minded and spiteful.

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    1. I have only linked this once. I do not advertise my blog (except in my signature), but share if I made a new entry. I'm not sure what you mean by "promoting it so aggressively", care to clarify that?

      If this was in intended slander, flame, and bait, I would've used the real alias name and give links to the site and his profile, however I did not, which would also discredit the claim of "not moving on". I have not made any other entries about this since then. If I was not moving on, you would see other entries about those events, however this is the only one about it.

      Seems I'm getting "attention and pity" after only linking it to the site chat once, and only once. It is possible someone is sharing this entry on another site or to friends, giving me the attention instead.

      I still see no reason why you bring up that he's gay, when I have never mentioned him being one in the first place in this entry. Why do you wish to keep bringing this up when it doesn't really matter in the first place?

      I don't have any respect for people who get drunk very often, especially on a voice chat program like TS3 or Skype, or games like TF2. It was nice to know he has stopped drinking a lot while on the server in the future though, it was pleasing to everyone.

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